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战锤40K,现实宇宙量级与一些更大的宏观维度宇宙说明

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    【一、宇宙无限大】
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    (1,意识飘出时看到无限大宇宙)
    Death is therealisation of what we really are. In death I see a million stars, in a singlegalaxy with millions of counterparts across an infinite universe. A galaxycould wink out of existence and it would mean nothing against that enormity.But I am just one piece of flesh and bone and blood, on one space stationorbiting one chunk of rock, which in turn orbits one of the stars that makes upa single galaxy. I mean nothing. Nothing I will ever do can ever mean anything.To die is to be confronted with that truth.--the world engine
    【死亡让我们意识到自己的真实存在。在死亡面前,我看见无数星辰汇聚于单一星系之中,而这样的星系在无限宇宙中又有数以百万计的对等存在。一个星系可能瞬间消失,在那浩瀚无垠的宇宙中,这根本微不足道。而我,不过是血肉之躯,依附于一座环绕着一块岩石旋转的空间站,而这块岩石又围绕着构成单一星系的其中一颗恒星旋转。我微不足道。我所做的一切,都毫无意义。面对死亡,就是直面这一真相。】
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    (2,飞离现实宇宙时的上帝视角说明)
    "Thechamber was grand, set high on theship’s spine withgalleries of real-viewers givingspectacular vistas out into the infinite void.Except that now, since the shipwas currently in the warp, every one of themwas safely shuttered andlocked." - Dawn of Fire 7 : Sea of Souls
    【这个舱室宏伟壮观,位于飞船的脊背上部,四周环绕着实景观察窗,可以俯瞰到无限虚空的壮丽景色。只不过现在,由于飞船正处于亚空间航行中,所有的观察窗都被安全地关闭并锁定了。- Dawn of Fire 7 : Sea of Souls】
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    (3,角色对河外描述)
    "‘What doyouwant from us? We will never be your slaves,’saidPlosk. ‘I do not want you as my slave, degenerate.Iwant to be away from this warp-poisoned galaxy. The universe is infinite.Iwould go elsewhere before the wounds of space-time here present consumeallcreation, and I do not intend to take any passengers.’"-Death of Integrity
    【‘你们想从我们这里得到什么?我们永远不会成为你的奴隶,’普洛斯克说道。‘我并不想要你做我的奴隶,你这堕落者。我只想离开这个被亚空间毒害的星系。宇宙是无穷无尽的。我宁愿去别的地方,也不愿留在这个时空伤口即将吞噬所有造物的地方,而且我也不打算带上任何乘客。’-Death of Integrity】
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    (4,上帝视角说明灵能者在实体宇宙的能力时说明实体宇宙大小)
    "The Scales of Truth heard andobeyed.The wall of the ship’s high command towershimmered andbecame transparent. Distant stars glimmered in the black void.This was a gulfbetween stars, empty except for the buzz of cosmic radiation.Finding anythingin the infinity of space would have been impossible for most,but for theThousand Sons what others considered impossible was mundane." -AhrimanUndying
    【真理之秤听到了指令并遵从执行。飞船高级指挥塔的墙壁闪烁着光芒,变得透明起来。遥远的星辰在漆黑的虚空中闪烁。这里是星辰之间的深渊,除了宇宙辐射的嗡嗡声外,空无一物。对于大多数人来说,在无限的宇宙中寻找任何东西都是不可能的,但对于千子来说,别人认为的不可能之事却是稀松平常。- Ahriman Undying】
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    (5,上帝视角对太空死灵宏伟工程于无限大宇宙的形容)
    “They hung in low orbit around a globeofscarred blue ice, itself suspended above a gas giant so vast its yawningcurvewas like a floor to the void. Beyond the crimson bulk of its horizon,theinfinite darkness was bisected by a thick, diagonal stripe of yellow – a gas cloud, light minutes across,viewed side-on. And intheforeground, clustered on the crinkled ice of themoon, were theunmistakablelines and pylon clusters of a necron orbital defence grid.“ -The Twice Dead King:Ruin
    【它们悬停在一个布满伤痕的蓝色冰球的低轨道上,而这个冰球又悬浮在一个巨大的气态巨行星之上,气态巨行星那巨大的张开的曲线就像虚空中的地面。在其猩红色地平线的远方,无限的黑暗被一条厚厚的黄色对角线条纹一分为二——这是一片从侧面看光需要几分钟才能穿过的气云。而在前景中,聚集在月球褶皱的冰面上的是无可置疑的线条和支柱群,构成了一个太空死灵的轨道防御网。-- The Twice Dead King:Ruin】


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      【二、现实宇宙学上存在无限维度、没有数量限制的维度】
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      (1,前一句话为表数量,后一句话否定myriad的有限词义,语境表无限)
      "‘Here?’ cried Semyon, throwing his arms wideand spinning around like alunatic. ‘You have such alimited understanding of thematerial world, girl. Words like here and therehave no meaning. The myriaddimensions of this material universe cannot bedefined by so limited a thing ashuman language!’"–Mechanicum
      【‘这里?’谢苗大喊道,他张开双臂,像疯子一样旋转起来。‘你对物质世界的理解真是有限,姑娘。像‘这里’和‘那里’这样的词是没有意义的。这个物质宇宙的无限维度,不可能用人类语言这种如此有限的东西来定义!’– Mechanicum】
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      (2,希尔伯克空间可以用来计算有限维度也可以用来计算无限维度,这里用来计算无法观察的额外维,所以用的是无限维度计算法)
      “You mean that they disappear?'
      That is exactly what the World Mind meant.
      'Hmm.'Nebusemekh thought.'Thatisinteresting.'He called up the
      records of the most recent cases andstudiedthem.'It appears that the virus,
      together with the host,withdraws fromourframe of reference,thus disappearing from your monitors.It wouldalso explainwhy the infection appears to strike at random.While there isno spatialconnection between the different chambers in which my peoplehave beeninfected,there will be a connection through the other frames ofreference withinHilberkh space that allows the infected to escape yourmonitors.In fact,it ispossible that within these folded frames of reference inHilberkh space wholedimensions may lurk,folded upon themselves.It may be thatthese are nascentuniverses,struggling towards birth andseeking energy to flare forth-the virusmay be a way of drawing matter intoitself.Even universes hunger.The World Mindthanked Nebusemekh for hisvaluable insights and promised to apply them to itsfutureanalyses.Was there any other reason that its honourable master had fordeigningto speak with it?“ –- Kasrkin
      【“你是说它们消失了?”
      这正是世界意识所指的意思。
      “嗯。”内布塞梅克思考着,“这很有趣。”他调出了最近几起案例的记录并进行了研究。“看来,病毒连同宿主一起,从我们的参照系中撤退了,因此从你们的监视器中消失了。这也解释了为什么感染看起来是随机的。虽然我的族人被感染的各个房间之间在空间上没有联系,但在希尔伯克空间(无限维度计算工具)的其他参照系中却存在联系,这使得感染者能够逃脱你们的监视。事实上,在希尔伯克空间的这些折叠参照系中,可能隐藏着整个维度,它们折叠在自己身上。也许这些是初生的宇宙,正在奋力诞生并寻求能量来爆发——病毒可能是将物质吸入自身的一种方式。甚至宇宙也会感到饥饿。世界意识感谢内布塞梅克提供了宝贵的见解,并承诺在未来的分析中加以应用。尊贵的主人还有其他什么原因屈尊与我交谈吗?”】
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      (3,亚空间能量冲垮四维支柱,不受数量限制的物理维度取而代之。亚空间本身是没有物理维度的,看过终结与死亡的都知道这是线束造成的其他维度收束表现。)
      For the warp is inevitable. What ithastransmuted outside the final fortress, it
      nowtransmutes within. The four sturdydimensions of the world are maimed
      andmangled, and in their place otherdimensions unfurl their properties,
      mocking sense and deriding logic withtheiralien breadths and endless
      measures. There is no limit to the numberofthese dimensions, for the
      immaterium has no definition that thehumanmind can comprehend.
      TheGolden Throne was an anchor to keep thewarp in check, a linchpin to
      secure stability at the heart of thefinalfortress. But Malcador’s will is
      overcome and the Throne burns, out ofcontrol.Thus the four dimensions are
      usurped and the new travesties taketheirplace. Inside, outside, up, down,
      near, far… allbecomecasualties of the war. Sense and understanding perish.
      Meaning is lost, or becomes un-meaning,forsuch is the horrifying mystery of
      thenaked warp.-- The End and The Death
      【因为亚空间是不可避免的。最后的堡垒,外面的世界早已遭到它的转变,现在堡垒的内部也在所难免。世界那坚固的四维时空已然残破不堪,面目全非。其他的维度则取而代之,尽情展现着它们的性质,以其诡异的宽度和无限的尺度嘲弄着认知,揶揄着逻辑。这些维度没有数量的限制。非物质领域远非人类的思维能够理解和定义。
      而黄金王座正是一个制约亚空间的锚点,是确保最后的堡垒核心的稳定性的重中之重。但是马卡多的意志已经不堪重负,黄金王座正在熊熊燃烧,丧失了控制。因此四维时空被全新的歪曲仿制品所篡夺和取代。内,外,上,下,近,远……全部沦为了这场战争的牺牲品。认知和理解泯灭不见。事物的意义荡然无存,甚至变成了自身的反面。这些骇人听闻的神秘表现全部因为裸露的亚空间。】


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        【三、四维主体宇宙,存在额外维与额外维的表现】
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        (1,现实宇宙物理规则有多维重叠法则,一不小心就遭重)
        Kai’s stomach sank, and he swallowed a mouthful of bile as his body shifted
        from one plane of existence to another. Translating from the warp to realspace
        was never easy, but to do it while looking into the heart of baleful storms was
        even harder. He fought to hold onto consciousness, and let out a shuddering
        series of breaths as the sickening colours of the warp faded and the distant
        sprinkling of diamond stars against the darkness of realspace swam into
        focus.
        Now subject to the principal laws of the universe, the Argo twisted as gravity
        tore at it with jealous claws. Portions of the ship buckled inwards, and others
        tore away in the violence of translation. How galling it would be to have
        survived such violent warp storms only to destroyed by the very laws held in
        abeyance beyond the veil of the Immaterium.
        (…)
        Addendum:
        Sire, as this excerpt clearly shows, Kai Zulane displays classic symptoms of
        denial, paranoia and an inability to face the truth of his ordeal. It is my
        conclusion that he believes he is responsible for the events that led to the loss
        of the Argo, though the truth of this is for others, more qualified in the fields
        of multi-dimensional overlaps, to determine. However, I do not believe any
        individuals could live through so traumatic an experience without some
        psychic scarring, none of which is evident in Kai Zulane’s aetheric aura. I
        would, therefore, venture the opinion that Kai Zulane is not beyond recovery.
        Kai Zulane represents a significant investment in time and effort (both by
        House Castana and the Adeptus Astra Telepathica) and to simply ‘cut our
        losses’ and send him to the hollow mountain would, at this point, be
        premature.
        In summary, it is my recommendation that Kai Zulane be returned to the
        auspices of the Adeptus Astra Telepathica for immediate rehabilitation. This
        will reaffirm our commitment to the XIII Legion, and effectively allow House
        Castana to pass the burden of responsibility elsewhere.
        I remain your humble servant in all things, and can offer further
        clarifications, should they be required, on Kai Zulane’s psychic pathology at
        your convenience.
        Bellan Tortega
        Neuro-psychic attendant 343208543.—The Outcast Dead_

        凯的胃猛地一沉,他咽下了一口汁,身体正从一个存在层面转移到另一个。从亚空间虚空跃迁到实体空间从来都不是易事,但要在恶毒的风暴中心进行跃迁更是难上加难。他努力保持着清醒,当亚空间中那些令人作呕的色彩逐渐褪去,而实体空间中黑暗背景下点缀的璀璨星辰如钻石般闪耀并渐渐清晰时,他发出一连串颤抖的呼吸声。
        现在,受制于宇宙的基本法则,阿尔戈号(Argo)在重力的无情撕扯下扭曲变形。船体的部分区域向内塌陷,而其他部分则在空间跃迁的剧烈冲击下被撕裂开来。在经历了如此猛烈的时空扭曲风暴之后,却要在不朽之帷(Immaterium)的屏障之外,被那些原本被暂缓执行的宇宙法则所摧毁,这将是多么令人愤慨的事情啊。
        (…)
        附录:
        阁下,正如这段摘录所明确显示的,凯·祖兰表现出典型的否认、偏执以及无法面对自己所经历磨难真相的症状。我的结论是,他认为自己应对导致“阿尔戈”号失事的事件负责,尽管这一事实的真相应由那些在多维重叠领域更有造诣的人来判定。然而,我认为没有任何人能够在经历如此创伤性的事件后而不留下任何心理创伤,而在凯·祖兰的气场(灵魂场)中并未发现任何此类迹象。因此,我斗胆认为,凯·祖兰并非无可挽回。
        凯·祖兰代表着巨大的时间和精力的投入(无论是对于卡斯塔纳家族还是对于星灵通信者学会而言),而此刻就“割肉止损”并将他送往空山之中,似乎还为时过早。
        综上所述,我建议将凯·祖兰重新交由星灵通信者学会进行立即的康复治疗。这将重申我们对第十三军团的承诺,并有效地使卡斯塔纳家族能够将责任的重担转嫁给他人。
        我依然是您谦卑的仆人,如有需要,我可以在您方便的时候,就凯·祖兰的心理病理学问题提供进一步的说明。
        贝拉恩·托特加
        神经心理学侍者 343208543】
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        (2,多维空间下无限宇宙无限交织存在,这是维度交汇的原因,与后面提的膜宇宙学可进行互证)
        Ka’Bandha fell through the hidden spaces between worlds. The occulted
        gears of creation rushed by him. In the machineries of being were the inner
        secrets of the universe displayed to him. The daemonkin of Tzeentch would
        have damned a dozen eternities for a glimpse of what he saw, but Ka’Bandha
        did not care for knowledge. The things on display were valueless to him, and
        the wonders of infinity whirled by unappreciated.
        Ka’Bandha fell forever and for no time at all, until a wave of change rippled
        out through the multi-dimensional space he infected, upsetting the delicate
        workings of infinite, interleaved universes.—The Devastation of Baal
        【卡班哈坠入了世界之间的隐秘虚空。创造之隐秘齿轮在他身旁疾驰而过。在内中的机器中,宇宙的内在秘密向他展现无遗。奸奇的恶魔后裔们即便牺牲无数永恒的时光,也渴望一窥他所见的景象,但卡班哈对知识并不在意。展现在他眼前的一切对他来说都毫无价值,那些无尽的奇迹从他眼前掠过,却未得到任何赏识。
        卡班哈无尽地下坠,又仿佛未经历任何时间,直到一股变化的浪潮在他所侵扰的多维空间中荡漾开来,扰乱了无限交织宇宙的微妙运作。】
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        (3,额外维度在四维主体宇宙内存在、被使用)
        The Diurnal Vault must have been constructed according to trans
        dimensional principles, for it was far larger a space than could have been
        contained by its supposed location. The source of the light was a blazing
        orb, forty feet across, set into the chest of a gargantuan statue of an angel
        carved from black stone and lit strongly red by the orb. The angel’s right
        hand rested upon the pommel of an immense sword. The left hand was held
        palm upwards, three enormous crystalline menhirs floating above it in a
        haze of crimson light.-- Lords OF Blood_
        【日间宝库一定是根据跨维度原理建造的,因为它所占的空间远大于其所在位置本应能容纳的范围。光源是一个直径四十英尺的炽热球体,它被嵌入一尊由黑石雕刻而成的巨大天使雕像的胸膛中,球体发出强烈红光照亮了雕像。天使的右手握着一把巨大宝剑的剑柄,左手掌心向上,三根巨大的水晶石柱在猩红光芒的雾霭中悬浮其上。】


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          (4,战锤40K里设定,可以用一种叫维度相位的技术开启额外空间维)
          He held his eyes steady on the spacebetween the columns, forcing his senses and his mind not to slide into what itknew to be and not be there, forcing it to see what was… and he reached outwith the sceptre. The metal hit stone. Another column stood where there hadbeen nothing before. It rose to meet a block that rested on it and the twoother pillars. Together they made an irregular arch with three openings. In themiddle of the stones a hole opened in the floor, no wider than a bolt shell.Carved lines radiated from it, linking circles and semicircles. Lycomedesstepped back with surprise. ‘Where was it before?’ he asked. ‘It was alwayshere,’ said Ahriman. ‘It only required to be seen by more than one observer forit to become tangible.’ ‘Dimensional phasing,’ said Ctesias. ‘Two physicalrealities coexisting at the same location in space and time, separated by theperception of the observer. I have encountered the concept, seen fragments ofrelated theory, but to achieve it without using etheric methods…’ Ahrimanthought he could almost detect admiration in Ctesias’ voice as he gave a slowshake of his head.—Ahriman:Eternal
          【他紧紧盯着两根柱子之间的空间,强迫自己的感官和思维不去滑入那既存在又不存在的认知中,强迫自己去看到真正存在的东西……他伸出权杖。金属击中了石头。之前空无一物的地方,现在矗立着另一根柱子。它升起,与另一块放置在它和另外两根柱子上的石块相接。三根柱子共同构成了一个不规则的三拱门。在石头中央的地面上,出现了一个洞,宽度不超过一发炮弹。从洞中延伸出雕刻的线条,连接着圆圈和半圆。
          吕科梅德斯惊讶地后退了一步。
          “它之前在哪里?”他问道。
          “它一直在这里,”阿里曼说,“只需要被不止一个观察者看到,它就会变得有形。”
          “维度相位,”克提亚斯说,“两个物理现实在同一时空位置共存,由观察者的感知分隔开来。我遇到过这个概念,看到过相关理论的片段,但要做到不使用以太方法就实现这一点……”阿里曼觉得,克提亚斯在缓缓摇头时,声音中几乎流露出了一丝钦佩。

          --
          (5,维度与平行现实有着一定的挂钩关系,跨当前宇宙额外维容易跑别的现实里,并且这段暗示除了额外空间维,还存在额外时间维)
          Using the transdimensional beamer had been a desperate risk, little better
          than casting lots. He’d adjusted the translocation paths to his own
          specifications, of course – Orikan was reckless, not dull-witted – but there
          had been a chance some infinitesimal variable would mar his transit. A
          chance that, instead of the glowing tunnels of the webway, he would have
          sprung back into reality in the heart of a star, or floating in deep space
          between dimensions. Even absent those extreme cases, there was every
          possibility he would come out at a random point in space-time, forced to
          adjust and use the beamer again and again, hoping the increasingly wild
          translations would bring him home, and not to realities increasingly
          aberrant from his own.—The Infinite and The Divine_
          【使用跨维传送器是一次孤注一掷的冒险,几乎等同于碰运气。他当然根据自己的要求调整了传送路径——奥里坎是鲁莽,但不是愚蠢——但仍然存在一个微小的变量可能破坏他传送过程的风险。有可能他并不会通过网道的光亮隧道,而是会直接在恒星中心或维度之间的深空中浮现回来。即便不考虑这些极端情况,他也完全有可能在时空的随机点出现,被迫一次又一次地调整并使用传送器,希望这些越来越离谱的传送能把他带回家,而不是带到与他自己的现实越来越偏离的其他现实中去。】
          --
          (6,排骨身躯自带维度相位观察能力,可以在当前宇宙观察额外维)
          “The gun weapon drew breath to fire.Theprisoner's senses traced the
          distances between every point in theroom,and sliced time down until only
          the decay of atoms marked its passing.Theshort distance from him to the
          automaton's gun,from the automaton to itsmasters,from those masters to
          the door.Every measured value became likecrystal,every facet and plane
          extending through countless dimensions.“- - Ahriman Undying
          【枪械武器蓄势待发。囚犯的感官追踪着房间内每一点之间的距离,将时间切割得仿佛只剩下原子衰变在标记着它的流逝。从他到自动武器的短距离,从自动武器到它的控制者,再从那些控制者到门的距离,每一个测量值都变得如同水晶般清晰,每一个面和平面都仿佛延伸到了无限维度之中。-- Ahriman Undying】
          ---
          (7,空间额外维并非口袋维度,是自然存在。这一段是口袋维度与自然维度的区分性描写)
          The C'tan (see page 107 can be reactivatedwith the assistance of the master program, which it refuses to give. Thedevices cannot be destroyed with conventional explosives, as the Heretics soonrealise that the crystalline obelisks and the central pillar do not fully existin a physical sense. In fact, they are physical manifestations of thehibernation tesseract and exist in 20 dimensions at once.--- Black Crusade:Hand of Corruption, pg 106
          【C'tan(星神碎片)可以在主程序的帮助下被重新激活,但它拒绝提供这一帮助。这些设备无法用常规爆炸物摧毁,因为异端分子很快意识到,这些晶体方尖碑和中央支柱在物理意义上并不完全存在。事实上,它们是休眠四维超立方体的物理表现,并且同时存在于20个维度中。】
          ---
          (8,非欧几里得的多维交错可以被用来传输能量丝)
          At its centre hangs the blazing orb ofthe confluence sphere, its brilliance filtered by the living metal cage thathas grown to encompass it. Radiating out from the sphere like the arms of someprimitive oceanic predator are skeins of energy that interlace through multipledimensions. Each enfolds smaller, yet still brightly blazing orbs of fire andthe spheres that orbit about them. The energy skeins ripple and flow. They aregrowing like a living thing, forming an interlocking web that connects via non-Euclideanlinkages and entraps dozens of lesser nodes.-- Psychic Awakening: For Every End, aBeginning
          【地图中心悬浮着耀眼的汇流球(confluence sphere),包裹其生长的活体金属笼子过滤了它的光芒。球体向外辐射的能量束就像某种原始海洋掠食者的手臂,在多个维度间交错。每根能量束都环绕着较小但同样明亮的火球和围绕它们运行的球体。这些能量束荡漾着,流动着,像活物一样不断生长,形成了一张环环相扣的网,通过非欧几里得链接绞合在一起,每根都束缚着数十个更小的节点。】
          --
          (9,排骨的维度相位技术还能用来供能,这个在设定中是超维科技)
          Tegas paid no attention to the revenant.‘As we have a reactor core inside this outpost, so the xenos have adimensional-phase device to provide power to their largest facilities. Yes,Sisters, I can deactivate it if you take me there.’ Imogen heard the avarice asit finally bled into his voice and raised her gun again. ‘The hybrid is right!He lies again, and even now I do not doubt he is scheming, to find the ends ofthis that will most benefit him!’--Hammer and Anvil
          【特加斯没有理会那个亡灵 “就像我们这个哨站内部有一个反应堆核心一样,异形有一种维度相位装置来为他们的最大设施提供能量。没错,姐妹们,如果你们带我去那里,我可以让它失效。”伊莫金终于听出了他声音中流露出的贪婪,并再次举起了枪。“那个混血儿说得对!他又在撒谎,而且直到现在,我都不怀疑他正在密谋,想要找到最能让他受益的结果!”】


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            ---
            (10,这个钩子技术来自星神的馈赠,而维度间能量是无穷无尽的,不可能是人造的口袋维度,所以再证自然额外维)
            “Powerup the translocationarrays!'announced Simut,taking
            hisplace upon his throne after some timespent inspecting the
            displayscreens.The command pulsed throughPhetos and into
            thetomb ship's computationalbanks.Dimensional grips sank
            intothe subspaces between thespheres,drawing on a limitless
            supplyof power.Deep within the interiorlevels of the
            immensevessel pyramidal transformersstirred into action,
            turningraw power created by the driftbetween dimensions
            intoenergy that thrummed along thecircuits of the mastaba,
            bathingthe lord and his royal warden inits jade glow.“—INDOMITUS
            【“启动传送阵列!”西穆特宣布道,他花了一段时间检查显示屏后坐到了自己的座上。命令通过菲托斯传到古墓飞船的计算机库中。维度钩子沉入球体之间的子空间,利用无穷无限的能量供应。在巨大飞船内部深处,金字塔形的变压器开始运转,将维度间漂移产生的原始电力转化为能量,沿着马斯塔巴的电路嗡嗡作响,让领主和他的皇家守护者沐浴在翡翠般的光芒中。—INDOMITUS】
            ---
            (11,且排骨扭曲交汇维度可以用来改变事实)
            “Itwas unfortunate that he had killed oneof them.He should undo that.
            Hewould undo that.
            Nebusemekhreached out his hand and twistedthe dimensions that cut
            throughthe thousands of vertices thatintersected the reality planes.He
            twistedthem and the explorer...lived.
            Nebusemekhheld out his hands,spreadingthem wide,and said,'My dear
            children,welcomeback.I do apologise forthe slight misunderstanding but I
            cansee that you are as fleshly as I,boneand muscle and blood.'He smiled
            It isso good to see and speak to otherliving,breathing necrontyr after so
            longon my own,with only a datafall thathas delusions of sentience for
            company.Welcome,mybrave and worthychildren,my explorers from the
            furthestreaches of this world,welcome.'“—Kasrkin
            【不幸的是,他杀死了他们中的一个。他应该撤销这个行为。
            他会撤销这个行为。
            内布塞梅克伸出手,扭曲了那些穿过与现实平面相交的数千个顶点的维度。他扭曲了这些维度,于是那位探险者……复活了。
            内布塞梅克伸出双手,摊开得很宽,说道:“我亲爱的孩子们,欢迎回来。我为这个小误会道歉,但我能看出你们和我一样,是有血有肉、有骨有肉、有血的生物。”他微笑着。在这么长的时间里,我只能与那些自诩为有感知力的数据流为伴,能看到并与其他活生生的涅克罗提尔交谈真是太好了。欢迎你们,我勇敢而值得尊敬的孩子们,欢迎你们这些来自这个世界最遥远角落的探险者。”】


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              【四、宏观宇宙与单个宇宙的关系,宏观维度的技术的使用表现】
              ===
              (1,宏观宇宙符合M理论,膜宇宙体系为基础,无限维度有互证(二-3),无数平行现实如果指的是自然空间存在(三-2)里有互证,如果指的是命运分裂,往期终结于死亡里(黑王降临)有互证)
              “I have never heard of a brane shield,'Isay.
              'Ishould be surprised if you had,'hesays,holding up a hand to forestall
              anyresponse at the implied insult to myintelligence.'It is incredibly
              ancienttechno-arcana that relies on anunderstanding of M-theory.Do you
              possesssuch an understanding,BaronRoland?'
              'No,butI am a quick study.'
              Vrilpauses,no doubt trying to think of howhe can explain something
              complexto a man he believes to be mentallysubnormal.
              'Thecentral conceit is that ourvisible,four-dimensional universe is
              restrictedto a brane,that is,amembrane,inside a higher dimensional
              space,'hebegins,and already I feel anyhope of comprehension fall away.
              'Atheoretically infinite number ofdimensions of potentially infinite scale
              occupyother branes,which,in effect,meansthere can be an endless series
              ofalternate realities,intersecting withour own in ways we cannot possibly
              imaginein any currently positedcosmological model.'
              Thesilence that follows his'explanation'tells him all he needs to know
              ofhow much we have understood.
              'Soa brane shield moves us out of thebrane in which our known universe
              existsand into another,'says Anthonis.'Nowis that a pre-existing brane or
              anewly created one?'
              Weturn to look at Anthonis and he shrugs.“--Knights of the Imperium
              【'我从没听说过膜盾,'我说。
              '你要是听说过我才觉得奇怪呢,'他边说边举起一只手,以防我对他暗含对我智力的侮辱做出任何回应。'这是一种依靠对M理论的理解才能掌握的古老技术奥秘。你了解M理论吗,罗兰德男爵?'
              '不了解,但我学得很快。'
              维尔停顿了一下,无疑是在思考如何向他认为智力低下的我解释复杂的事物。
              '中心思想是,我们可见的四维宇宙被限制在一个膜内,也就是说,在一个更高维度的空间内的膜上,'他开始解释,而我已经感到任何理解的希望都在破灭。
              '理论上无限数量的、潜在具有无限规模的维度占据在其他膜上,这实际上意味着可以有存在无穷无尽的平行现实,它们以我们目前提出的任何宇宙模型都无法想象的方式与我们的现实相交。'
              他'解释'完后的一片沉默告诉了他我们需要了解的一切。
              '所以膜之盾会把我们从已知的宇宙所在的膜移动到另一个膜上,'安东尼斯说,'那是已经存在的膜还是新创造的膜?'
              我们转身看向安东尼斯,他耸了耸肩。” --Knights of theImperium】
              ---
              (2,维度膜是写入官方介绍书里,不少孤证,并独立于命运帷幕的存在,所以上述无限宇宙大概率是存在基数而不是命运分裂)
              ChronomanticSight
              Onceblinded for his 'lack offoresight,Toholk has
              refittedhis body with chronomanticsystems.He now
              viewsthe world through a shifting veilof temporal
              energyfields and the twisting skein ofdimensional
              membranes,andcan transmit his visionsto the Necrons
              aroundhim.
              【时空之眼:
              托霍尔克曾因缺乏远见而失明,他用时空系统改造了自己的身体。现在,他可以通过不断变化的时间能量场帷幕(veil)和扭曲的维度膜(membranes)来观察世界,并可以将他的视野传递给周围的死灵。】
              ----
              (3,膜是多层的,因为是多维空间,上面有互证(二-3),这个在终结与死亡里(帝皇肉身破多维入亚空间)也有互证,关于亚空间航行有很多书有这种描述)
              Situatedfar from the sucking gravity well of the sun, the Mandeville
              point represented the region of space thatcenturies of experience and hard
              wonknowledge had identified as the best place to breach the membrane
              separating realspace and warp space. A shipcould translate into the warp
              elsewhere, of course, but such were the risksinvolved that any means of
              reducingthe danger was worth the extra transit time to the more distant
              Mandeville point.—Forge of Mars
              【远离太阳那强大的引力陷阱,曼德维尔点代表着这样一个太空区域:几个世纪以来,人们凭借来之不易的知识和经验,认定这里是突破分隔实空间与亚空间的膜层的最佳地点。当然,飞船也可以在其他地方进入亚空间,但这样做风险极大,以至于任何能够降低危险的手段都足以让飞船多飞行一些时间去往更远的曼德维尔点变得值得。

              ----
              (4,穿过膜后,也可以选择穿入网道,但这貌似需要网道技术)
              Themembrane of reality splits. The gold ofthe Webway turns into the blackness ofspace—Wraithflight
              【现实的薄膜裂开。网道的金色变为太空的漆黑--Wraithflight】


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                【五、更宏观的维度工程或存在,存在于亚空间与现实宇宙之间的存在,不属于现实宇宙的其他维度】
                ===
                (1,以现实宇宙为锚点,亚空间是现实宇宙无限维度外的维度)
                "Theysee the future as we do. The warp is not just a sea for ignorant space-farersto drown in. It is another dimension far more wondrous than real space. Ourreality is the shadow of the warp, not the other way around." - Battle forthe Abyss
                【"他们和我们一样看到未来。亚空间不仅仅是一片供无知的太空旅行者淹死的海洋。这是另一个比现实空间更奇妙的维度。我们的现实是亚空间的投影,而不是相反。】
                ---
                (2,亚空间与现实宇宙平行,在codex里说过有时候会相交,但都是些入侵行为,这里进一步证明就是独立存在的)
                "Valqashcalled on his mental energy again but for the moment it was exhausted. Inreality there was an infinite ocean of power in the warp, the paralleldimension where all psychic potential resided, but he had trained his body andmind to close the connection to the warp down when his body was still unable tochannel it again. For the moment his mind was like a bolter without any shells,waiting to be reloaded"-The World Engine
                【瓦尔卡什再次调用他的精神能量,但此刻它已耗尽。实际上,在亚空间——这个所有精神潜能所在的平行维度中,存在着无穷无尽的力量之海,但他已经训练自己的身体和心灵,在身体仍无法再次引导这些力量时,关闭与亚空间的连接。此刻,他的心灵就像一把没有子弹的爆弹枪,等待着重新装填。】
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                (3,帷幕隔在亚空间与现实宇宙之间,说明也是独立的)
                "Thesky peeled open. The madness that lurked beyond the veil of the universe wasrevealed. Mephiston looked into it unblinkingly. He understood what few did.This roiling, limitless ocean was true reality, not the sluggish skin of mattermen walked across and fought over, but the endless hells of warp space."-The Devastation of Baal
                【天空裂开了一道口子。隐藏在宇宙帷幕之外的疯狂景象显露无遗。墨菲斯顿目不转睛地注视着它。他领悟到了极少数人才能明白的道理。这片汹涌澎湃、无边无际的海洋才是真正的现实,而不是人类行走其上、为之争斗的物质世界的迟钝表象,而是亚空间中无尽的炼狱。】
                (4,网道是依附于帷幕上的、横跨现实宇宙与亚空间的维度迷宫,且经常受到来自其他现实的入侵)
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                Sometimescalled the labyrinth dimension,
                thewebway is a construct of shimmering
                arterialpathways that spans both realspace
                andthe immaterium.It is defined by
                thefact that it sits between the material
                realmand the roiling tides of the warp,
                comparableto the surface of a mirror,or
                thefabric of a veil cast over something
                foul.Theancient Aeldari discovered that
                itwas possible to exist within thatsilvered
                surface,tomove between the threads
                ofthat veil.It is here that the Drukhari
                havemade their home,and it is by using
                theinnumerable hidden portals that
                connectthe webway and realspace that the
                raidingparties of Commorragh are able
                toterrorise the galaxy.Since the Fall-the
                greattragedy of the Aeldari race-the
                webwayhas been a realm both shattered
                anddangerous,its splintered reaches
                infestedby strange beings from different
                realities.Yetthis is the perfect breeding
                groundfor the warriors of theDrukhari.---- codex-dark-eldar-8th
                【有时被称为迷宫维度,网道是由闪耀的动脉状路径构成的构造体,它横跨现实空间和非物质空间。它的特点在于位于物质领域与汹涌澎湃的亚空间之间,类似于镜子的表面,或是遮盖在某种邪恶事物之上的帷幕织物。远古的灵族发现,有可能存在于那层银色的表面之内,穿梭于那层帷幕的丝线之间。黑暗灵族便以此为家,正是通过利用连接网道和实体空间的无数隐藏区域,科摩罗的突袭部队才得以在整个银河系制造恐惧。自灵族种族遭遇大灾难“陨落”以来,网道就成为了一个既破碎又危险的领域,其支离破碎的延伸部分被来自不同现实的奇异生物所侵扰。然而,这正是黑暗灵族战士的完美培育场。

                (5,网道有无限维度特征)
                "Theraiding kabalite ships flew withan air of arrogant confidence through thelabyrinth dimension. The eldar ofCommorragh had become the masters of thewebway, it was their hunting groundand their limitless domain. They slew anythat they found within its fabric,although its infinite dimensions meant thatit was rare to encounter suchimpudence. The eldar of the craftworlds stilldared to use the labyrinthdimension on occasion" -Path of the Dark Eldar
                【掠夺成性的卡巴利特舰队带着傲慢自信的气息穿梭于迷宫维度之中。科摩罗的灵族已成为网道的主宰,这里是他们的狩猎场,也是他们无垠的领地。他们在这片结构中遇到的任何生物都会遭到杀戮,尽管其无限的维度意味着这种冒犯行为极为罕见。而工艺世界的灵族仍偶尔会胆敢使用迷宫维度。】
                (6,网道依附于帷幕,而帷幕是命运维度,所以网道入口其实极有可能就是一种命运线实体化)
                Theyturned their backs on the dark place as it sank into the multi-hued depths ofthe void and they took to the webway once more. A single thread of
                probabilityled them through time and space to a reaim outside both the void and thematerial universe.
                -The Masque of Vyle
                【他们背过身去,远离那片逐渐沉入虚空多彩深渊的黑暗之地,再次踏上了网状通道。一缕微弱的可能性之线引领着他们穿越时空,抵达了一个既不属于虚空也不属于物质宇宙的异界。】


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                  ---CRUSADERS OF DORN

                  “这不是亚空间法术的作用。亚空间法术的几何形态无法用任何方式解释。如果说有什么不同的话,这里的维度展现出了一种更加复杂的特性。我们中的许多人已经注意到了这里房间的不稳定性,以及外部和内部的不匹配。”
                  “是的,”海尔布雷赫说,“我亲眼见过。”
                  尤里西安点了点头,这个动作伴随着肌肉束轻微的嗡嗡声。“虽然复杂,但这个地方的维度是可以解释的。整个生态环境都是高维物理学的体现。”
                  “解释一下,”古尔维恩说道。
                  “我们所展现的宇宙包括四个维度——高度、宽度、深度和时间。这些生物可能来自更多的维度。”
                  “你说的是亚空间法术,”拜亚德说道。
                  “不是,”尤里西安说,“亚空间法术是独立的,它是另一个完全不同的领域。在我们自己的存在领域中,除了这四个维度外,还有更多的维度。正是通过这些维度,才能进入亚空间法术,也是通过它们,机械神教的一些伟大奥秘才得以实现,但这些维度并不属于亚空间法术。它们和你的剑的重量、你子弹的圆形一样真实和具体。”
                  “我不明白,”拜亚德说道。
                  “想象一下,冠军,如果你生活在一个三维世界而不是我们的四维世界,”尤里西安耐心地解释道,“宽度、深度和时间。你将完全没有上下的概念,因为没有高度。这对你来说看起来完全正常。但这并不意味着高度不存在,只是你无法感知它。这里的情况就是这样。”
                  “你说话就像是在打哑谜。如果这样的地方存在,我应该能看到它。我看不到什么扁平的世界,所以它根本不存在!”拜亚德说道。
                  “我说的是火星神殿中最伟大的奥秘。我们,甚至是我,都无法理解它们,但这并不意味着它们不存在。”
                  海尔布雷赫开口了。“那么,你是说这种生物是以实体形式存在的,而不是亚空间法术中诞生的巫师或恶魔?”
                  “是的,陛下。这些赛托人的新形态就像你我一样真实,但它们拥有额外的维度,这使得我们很难感知到它们。请原谅我,陛下,我无法进一步阐明。这个研究领域是火星上最伟大法师的专属。我所知道的只是实践——将这些祈祷方程式应用于场域生成等功能的正常运作。我不知道足够的咒语来揭示这个人或这座建筑中所隐藏的秘密。”
                  海尔布雷赫指了指那具发光的尸体。“那么,这是什么,尤里西安?”
                  “这些生物非常奇特,大人。它们是强大的敌人,既致命又复杂。我相信,这就是它们的繁殖方式。”


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                        (4,高维空间里物理规则不一致)
                        'I came across this place not long after we spoke,my liege,'said Jurisian.
                        He had led them down a short yet convoluted passage to another large
                        chamber.Within were thousands of corpses floating in the air at different
                        heights and at no common orientation.Some lay peacefully,as if in deep
                        sleep.Many others were contorted,terror clear on their faces.The majority
                        were human,but there were many aliens there also.The larger proportion of
                        the humans were not readily identifiable as Imperial,but representatives of
                        cultures known and unknown.The xenos likewise were of differing types.All
                        were united in death,but most markedly in their appearance.Their bodies
                        were hollow,their skins transparent;they appeared almost as glass sculptures.
                        They would perhaps have been mistaken for such were it not for the clothes
                        trinkets and weapons they wore,and the augmetics that persisted still in some
                        of the more advanced.
                        The Black Templars-Helbrecht,Jurisian,Bayard,Gulvein and Ceonulf
                        gathered around one of the corpses.Whatever process the man they examined
                        had undergone had affected only the organic matter of his body;the nerve
                        splices of his augmetic eye were clearly visible in the bowl of his skull.This
                        one differed in one other important aspect also.His remains were full of a
                        marbled glow,blue and green,red and gold,the sole lit lantern in a room full
                        of extinguished lights.Helbrecht pushed it gently.The corpse moved into a
                        new position and remained there,unaffected by momentum.
                        【“我们交谈后不久,我就发现了这个地方,陛下,”尤里西安说道。他带着他们穿过一条短而曲折的通道,来到另一个大房间。房间里漂浮着成千上万具尸体,它们位于不同的高度,方向各异。有些尸体安详地躺着,仿佛陷入了沉睡。许多其他尸体则扭曲着,脸上写满了恐惧。大多数是人类,但也有很多外星人。其中大部分人类无法轻易辨认出是帝国的,而是已知和未知文化的代表。外星人也同样来自不同的种族。尽管他们因死亡而统一,但最显著的是他们的外表。他们的身体是空的,皮肤透明;他们看起来几乎像是玻璃雕塑。如果不是因为他们穿着的衣服、佩戴的首饰和武器,以及一些更先进者身上仍然存在的增强装置,他们或许会被误认为是这样的雕塑。
                        黑堂武士们——海尔布雷赫、尤里西安、拜亚德、古尔维恩和西奥努尔夫——围在一具尸体旁。他们所检查的这个男人所经历的过程似乎只影响了他身体的有机物质;他增强型眼睛的神经连接在他头骨的凹陷处清晰可见。这具尸体在另一个重要方面也与众不同。他的遗骸中充满了大理石般的光泽,蓝绿相间,红金交织,是满室熄灭灯光中唯一亮着的灯笼。海尔布雷赫轻轻地推了推它。尸体移动到了一个新的位置,并停留在那里,不受惯性的影响。】


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                          总结:都有表现有说明。
                          1,有无限维度,维度存在无限差距。
                          2,单个宇宙内存在无限维度,这是无限交汇的结果。
                          3,宏观宇宙是更高无限维度宇宙,单个宇宙只是存在于高维不受限制的膜上。
                          因此,空间量上,单个宇宙无限盒子,宏观宇宙两层无限盒子(这次应该没计算错了)
                          4,维度膜是官设,数量级多方沿用。
                          5,宏观维度不止现实宇宙,还有亚空间与帷幕、依附帷幕的网道。
                          6,现实宇宙是亚空间投影,网道横跨亚空间与现实宇宙,帷幕之前说过,是命运领域。


                          IP属地:广东21楼2024-11-18 18:52
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                            吞楼把我吞麻了,很多都被迫删了


                            IP属地:广东22楼2024-11-18 18:52
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                              IP属地:广东来自Android客户端23楼2024-11-18 18:55
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