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我们只有在自己那儿获得自己的圆满,与这个世界与自己与他人真正的和解,这都在于我们自身。不是透过各种猜测虚幻,而是通过实实在在的实相,清明的视野里的实相,而实相不存在于文字里,不在典籍里,不在某个权威那里,它无法被真正描述表达,但是我们每个人都可以在当下通过全然的观察在清明自由的视野里看见。意识到这点很重要。


20楼2016-03-18 12:03
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    感觉是玄幻小说看多了。


    IP属地:山东来自Android客户端21楼2016-03-21 14:12
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      说实话,现在吧里人挺少的,不过我也不在乎。我只是不明白,一个人怎样才能察觉到自己的局限,关系又有什么用?抱歉这么久才回信,因为我拿着笔时不知该写什么。


      IP属地:广西来自Android客户端22楼2016-03-21 18:46
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        法无异法 妄自爱着


        IP属地:巴西来自Android客户端23楼2016-03-22 15:19
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          我觉得其时,人就是这样,他潜意识里认为自己是什么,他自己自然会自觉不自觉的去证明,而他如果在现实中碰了壁,想改变自己,那么到头来必是缘木求鱼,你认为自已是什么,你自已就是什么,除了心以外,一切皆是幻象。。。。。。。。。。。。


          IP属地:广西来自Android客户端24楼2016-03-22 22:29
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            我觉得其时,人就是这样,他潜意识里认为自己是什么,他自己自觉或不自觉的去证明,比如他如果认为自己不受欢迎,他自己自然会想办法在现实中证明这一点。而他如果在现实中碰了壁,想改变自己,那么到头来必是缘木求鱼,因为你认为自已是什么,你自已就是什么,除了心以外,一切皆是幻象。。。。。。。。。。。。


            IP属地:广西来自Android客户端25楼2016-03-22 22:32
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              这是我今天发现的,希望对你有所帮助:
              克里希那穆提教导的核心,包含在他1929年表述的命题中:“真理是无路之国。”人不可能通过任何组织、任何信仰、任何教义,牧师或仪式、任何哲学知识或者心理技巧,来达到它。他需要通过关系的镜子,通过理解他自己心灵的内容,通过观察而不是理智的分析或者内省式的剖析,来找到它。人为自己建立了各种形象,以充当安全的围墙-宗教的,政治的,个人的。它们以符号、思想、信仰的形式出现。这些形象的包袱,支配着人的思想,他的关系,以及他的日常生活。这些形象是我们问题的源泉,因为它们把人与人分割开来。他对生活的感知被他头脑中已经确立的概念所左右。他意识的内容就是他全部的存在。这个内容是整个人类共有的。个性只是名与形,以及他从传统与环境中所获得的表面的文化。人的独特性不在于表面,而在于从意识的内容中完全解放出来,而这些内容是整个人类共有的。所以他不是一个个人。 自由不是反应,自由不是选择。人自欺地认为,因为他有选择,所以他是自由的。自由是纯粹的观察,没有方向,没有对回报与惩罚的恐惧。自由是没有动机的,自由不是在人的进化的结尾,而是在他存在的第一步。在观察中你开始发现自由的缺乏。自由是我们对日常生活的无选择觉知中找到的。 思想是时间。思想产生于经验和知识,而经验和知识是与时间和过去分不开的。时间是人类的心理敌人。我们的行动是基于知识,从而是基于时间的,所以人总是过去的奴隶。思想永远是局限的,所以我们生活在无休止的冲突与挣扎中。心理的进化是不存在的。 当人开始觉知到自己思想的运动时,他会看到思想者与思想、观察者与被观察者、经验者与经验之间的分裂。他会发现这个分裂是一个幻觉。只有此时,才有纯粹的观察,它是没有任何过去及时间阴影的洞见。这个超越时间的洞见,带来一种深刻的,根本的心灵突变。 完全的否定是肯定的精髓。在否定了所有那些思想所带来的心理上的东西时,只有在此时,才有爱,也就是慈悲与智慧。译者注:有人让克里希那穆提总结他教导的核心。他写出了上面这几段话,作为答复。 The Core of Krishnamurti's Teachings
              (written by him 21 Oct 80)
              The core of Krishnamurti's teaching is contained in the statement he made in 1929 when he said: "Truth is a pathless land." Man cannot come to it through any organization, through any creed, through any dogma, priest or ritual, not through any philosophic knowledge or psychological technique. He has to find it through the mirror of relationship, through the understanding of the contents of his own mind, through observation and not through intellectual analysis or introspective dissection. Man has built in himself images as a fence of security -- religious, political, personal. These manifest as symbols, ideas, beliefs. The burden of these images dominates man's thinking, his relationships and his daily life. These images are the causes of our problems for they divide man from man. His perception of life is shaped by the concepts already established in his mind. The content of his consciousness is his entire existence. This content is common to all humanity. The individuality is the name, the form and superficial culture he acquires from tradition and environment. The uniqueness of man does not lie in the superficial but in complete freedom from the content of his consciousness, which is common to all mankind. So he is not an individual. Freedom is not a reaction; freedom is not choice. It is man's pretense that because he has choice he is free. Freedom is pure observation without direction, without fear of punishment and reward. Freedom is without motive; freedom is not at the end of the evolution of man but lies in the first step of his existence. In observation one begins to discover the lack of freedom. Freedom is found in the choiceless awareness of our daily existence and activity. Thought is time. Thought is born of experience and knowledge which are inseparable from time and the past. Time is the psychological enemy of man. Our action is based on knowledge and therefore time, so man is always a slave to the past. Thought is ever-limited and so we live in constant conflict and struggle. There is no psychological evolution. When man becomes aware of the movement of his own thoughts he will see the division between the thinker and the thought, the observer and the observed, the experiencer and the experience. He will discover that this division is an illusion. Then only is there pure observation which is insight without any shadow of the past or of time. This timeless insight brings about a deep radical mutation in the mind. Total negation is the essence of the positive. When there is negation of all those things that thought has brought about psychologically, only then is there love, which is compassion and intelligence.


              26楼2016-03-23 17:52
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                来自Android客户端27楼2016-03-24 12:03
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                  @如涯123 请求禁了木鼠石硕这傻缺。


                  IP属地:广西来自Android客户端29楼2016-03-26 01:25
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                    @如涯123 请求禁了木鼠石垣这败类。。。。。


                    IP属地:广西来自Android客户端30楼2016-03-26 01:31
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                      楼主你真的在做白日梦。


                      IP属地:山东来自Android客户端31楼2016-04-07 18:48
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                        一方面,人类对超脱有误解,认为肉身可以修成永生和无敌,或者消灭肉体化成某种灵体,要么是俗世间达到别人望尘莫及的巅峰高度。可惜,都不是真正的答案。人的天性,位置,选择,连锁反应,已经注定了只有混合出最佳配方的才会功成名就,值得敬佩的人犹如太阳,我们享受他们的温暖,可永远不能效仿,被默认成好的东西,却独一无二。好的东西都是独一无二。……


                        来自Android客户端32楼2016-04-16 00:30
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                          木鼠石峘huan


                          来自Android客户端34楼2016-05-01 08:03
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                            我觉得真正的人物应该是超越了一切的因果、业力、气运整个人可以不被天地规则束缚,这里我跟你的观点是一致的!但是宇宙规则是仍是无变更的!也就是说即使你做到了,也并非万能!当然个人是解脱了自由了,另外再说一个,如果有血肉之躯存在,那么就会有局限,,仅代表个人观点。。


                            IP属地:江西来自Android客户端35楼2019-10-17 04:16
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                              还有“我觉得”吗?


                              来自iPhone客户端37楼2019-12-27 23:12
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