"标题："不要再坚持两个答案了，导演都说了，一切并不是小姑娘的想象
IMDB论坛上抄下来的：
FROM
PAN'S LABYRINTH—The Evening Class Interview With Guillermo Del Toro
http://theeveningclass.blogspot.com/2006/12/pans-labyrinththe-evening-class.html
MG: I'm glad to hear you say that. This is the dispute going on among people who have seen your film. Was Ofelia in her fantasy world? Was it a real world? I keep saying such questions pose a false dichotomy.
问：很高兴听到你这么说。这也是这部电影的人一直在争论的问题。到底Fantasy World只是Ofelia的想象还是真实的？我一直觉得这个问题其实是一种false dichotomy（假两难推理，就是说其实两种答案都不对）。
Del Toro: Yes, of course. And it's intimate. If the movie works as a piece of storytelling, as a piece of artistic creation, it should tell something different to everyone. It should be a matter of personal discussion. Now objectively, the way I structured it, there are three clues in the movie that tell you where I stand. I stand in that it's real. The most important clues are the flower at the end, and the fact that there's no way other than the chalk door to get from the attic to the Captain's office.
Del Toro：是啊，当然。而且这要看各人的。电影作为一种讲故事的手段，作为一种艺术创造，就应该有一些不管对谁都很特别的东西。这其实是很个人化的。但客观的讲，从我构建这个故事的角度来说，影片里有三个线索表达了我的立场。我的立场是，一切都是真实的。最重要的线索是影片结尾的花，另一个线索是除了那扇粉笔门以外没有其他途径通往上尉的办公室。
MG: Yes, and again referring back to the dynamic of their dyad, Mercedes notices the chalk door; they aren't just in Ofelia's imagination.
问：是的，（没看懂-_-），而且Mercedes也注意到了粉笔门，说明这不是仅仅存在于Ofelia的想象中。
Del Toro: Objectively, those two clues tell you it's real. The third clue is she's running away from her stepfather, she reaches a dead end, by the time he shows up she's not there. Because the walls open for her. So sorry, there are clues that tell you where I stand and I stand by the fantasy. Those are objective things if you want. The film is a Rorschach test of where people stand.
Del Toro: 客观上，那两个线索告诉了你这是真实的。第三个线索是她逃脱继父的追捕时，来到一条死路，而等他追到时她已经不见了。因为墙壁为她打开了。所以，抱歉，这些线索表达了我的立场，而我站在童话这一边。如果你想要的话，证据就摆在那儿。这部影片是一个墨渍心理测验，可以看出人们的立场。
——所以，这是一个墨渍实验，但是导演想表达的就是这一切真实的。那些坚持认为一切都是小女孩的想象的人可以闭嘴了。
IMDB论坛上抄下来的：
FROM
PAN'S LABYRINTH—The Evening Class Interview With Guillermo Del Toro
http://theeveningclass.blogspot.com/2006/12/pans-labyrinththe-evening-class.html
MG: I'm glad to hear you say that. This is the dispute going on among people who have seen your film. Was Ofelia in her fantasy world? Was it a real world? I keep saying such questions pose a false dichotomy.
问：很高兴听到你这么说。这也是这部电影的人一直在争论的问题。到底Fantasy World只是Ofelia的想象还是真实的？我一直觉得这个问题其实是一种false dichotomy（假两难推理，就是说其实两种答案都不对）。
Del Toro: Yes, of course. And it's intimate. If the movie works as a piece of storytelling, as a piece of artistic creation, it should tell something different to everyone. It should be a matter of personal discussion. Now objectively, the way I structured it, there are three clues in the movie that tell you where I stand. I stand in that it's real. The most important clues are the flower at the end, and the fact that there's no way other than the chalk door to get from the attic to the Captain's office.
Del Toro：是啊，当然。而且这要看各人的。电影作为一种讲故事的手段，作为一种艺术创造，就应该有一些不管对谁都很特别的东西。这其实是很个人化的。但客观的讲，从我构建这个故事的角度来说，影片里有三个线索表达了我的立场。我的立场是，一切都是真实的。最重要的线索是影片结尾的花，另一个线索是除了那扇粉笔门以外没有其他途径通往上尉的办公室。
MG: Yes, and again referring back to the dynamic of their dyad, Mercedes notices the chalk door; they aren't just in Ofelia's imagination.
问：是的，（没看懂-_-），而且Mercedes也注意到了粉笔门，说明这不是仅仅存在于Ofelia的想象中。
Del Toro: Objectively, those two clues tell you it's real. The third clue is she's running away from her stepfather, she reaches a dead end, by the time he shows up she's not there. Because the walls open for her. So sorry, there are clues that tell you where I stand and I stand by the fantasy. Those are objective things if you want. The film is a Rorschach test of where people stand.
Del Toro: 客观上，那两个线索告诉了你这是真实的。第三个线索是她逃脱继父的追捕时，来到一条死路，而等他追到时她已经不见了。因为墙壁为她打开了。所以，抱歉，这些线索表达了我的立场，而我站在童话这一边。如果你想要的话，证据就摆在那儿。这部影片是一个墨渍心理测验，可以看出人们的立场。
——所以，这是一个墨渍实验，但是导演想表达的就是这一切真实的。那些坚持认为一切都是小女孩的想象的人可以闭嘴了。
